Not to Follow-Up...

...Or Down*
But that's the ticket.

While I did read the 2nd link, I have only glanced at the Sorkin critique and I am surprised at the criticism for the creator of Newsroom.  Not an HBO subscriber, I only saw the first episode OnDemand and was very impressed with the whole deal.  I don't know if I will have the same perspective of Alex Pereene if I could have seen the later episodes. Not that I was that impressed or critical of him to begin with. I thought he was fair and balanced, but not in the way it has come to be taken.  This actually this does follow from my not going that far and how some get** where they are.

My second line will be more fully digested later, and provide more fair and balanced context.

* actually it might follow(the only piece I have fully digested)
** BaneOr Side Show
*** anachronistic irony (I Ron Knee, Iron Knee of Bowles-Simpson/Balanced Solution)
[The Romney Tax problem is a sideshow so that they can say that Obama won't talk about the economy.  Republicans have been unprecedented obstuctionists so they can run against*** the economy, rather than the choice between more change and turning around to go back to what took us down.  Now that is a follow up.]

FOOTNOTE JUNE 2013 PAGE TWO

6-5-13: too b.s. really? (1/11, 2 /11, 3 /11, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 /11, 11 /11)
Gemini : Two Points / 18, Para-model, Brackets and the Debt Clock, Commander-in-Chief Obama, 5/ , 6, Two Wrongs Make a Right?,  Un-Social Darwinism., 9 /, 10 of / , 11 /, 12 / , 13/From GOP to NOP, 14 /, N-oddly Enough... , 16 / , "OFF A CLIFF", 18 / 18.
Cricket:,   Clinton(Bill) is full of B.S. of 9, 2/9,  The Real B. S. of the F. C. /9, Rubric's Peek/9,  Now the Un-Voodoo Math/9, The History of B.S./9, CAD (2 out of 3 be bad)/9, 8  /, Straw Elephant /9 .
Jiminy Buffet?

6-24-13 hmmm? Under(sc) not to pun on UW or my academics. But under the (b.s. ) may be the balanced solution. But embedded here on the NOW(correction AM), is that Russia may currently hold Snowden.  Another Irony?  That China and Russia not keep Snowden.

6-25-13 More in eff able parsing (Nailed it[!], Index 9-21-11, And Bailout...) (fn3)

Alter Under Construction

not to* mention** Altar.
It's the change thing.

* NWRoots
** Follow ups
[7-18-11 Bleep 'n Compromise posted and up dates
[7-19-11 America under De-construction: Not exactly Triangulation or is it ?]
[Robbing Peter to Pay Paul? Or the revisit the ditch metaphor?]
[7-20-11 - New Metaphor - Voodoo Or Stock Car: Not exactly new, but the analogy for the complaints from both sides of the political spectrum is that they want the roof on before the walls are built. But then there is the D-Ri've punned or they've punned, which I have Re-vised, where the economy is in the ditch and some have the solution of running it into a ditch again to fix it. Not to get too sunk in metaphors, rising tide or not, there are D-R i've O(a)rs of the economy no matter the vehicle or passengers.]
[From the desktop: Thom Hartmann and Ravi Batra 'n WME]
[On the other hand, in context:

Redistribution has a "from" side (taxation) and a "to" side (spending). On the "from" side, the notion that government should use taxation to increase rather than decrease equality is hardly Marxist. In "The Wealth of Nations," Adam Smith begins his section on taxation with the following maxim: "The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities." To ask otherwise, Smith writes, would be obviously unfair.]

[Loose thought- Cut, Cap and Balance- vs. The Badger 14 Re: fleeing their jobs. Pappa mmm Mow Mow, speaking of olds mobile oar 'n balance.]
[Quick Sand of Sorts: Rove, Ailes, Nordquist, Eyman- see Four Horsemen of the Trick-L Down.]
[The Change Thing? - Sanders on Ratigan? Debt Restructuring - Pour Analogy: If the US were a household and the GDP were its income, its overall debt would be close to but still less than one year's income. Note: this is a poor analogy, but fair in the light of the alter. SEGUE: A caller to AM1090 pointed out a better analogy. The debt does not take into account the true assets of our country. Mt. Rushmore / The Grand Canyon / The shiny seas.]

[7-21-11 Fair and Balanced, and Leaning Back: "Cry me a river" Michael Steele leans back at Joan Walsh's Obama/Reagan comparison(Fair link - 3:20) on MSNBC's Hardball, but the reality is that Obama as a Senator and as a President fits the bill of the history. As a Senator his vote against the debt ceiling raise, was an attempt to address the deficit, just as what forced the compromise Reagan made to get his. Meanwhile the people are with President Obama as well as Cenk Uygur.]
[7-22-11 Obama 2012]

One of my readers

if there is more than one, is concerned about my communications.
Note Under Construction label. I agree, it is problematic at times and heavy in links to say the least.

Fair and Balanced News? is a link directing to The Daily Show.

That is called Ledership you can choose to follow.(The FOX NEWS motto versus Comedy Central as a news source.)

Debt is a Red Herring, is a statement and a link and spins from here:

Six Things Everybody Knows About Deficits ...
That Are Completely Untrue
Which I rephrase as truths:

1.) Current and future spending are not the problem with the defecit, except for paying for our history.
2.) Social Security is not a big deal to fix(separately), but could be impacted by the budget and other decisions.
3.) Austerity and investment are different stories, that both have an impact on the budget and winning the future as well as the now.
4.) Concessions should not be trickle down but incentives should be target up.
5.) Wall Street is not fixed enough to be that big or permanent a part of the solution.
6.) Social Security is not on the same budget table as Medicare and Medicaid and calling them "entitlements" is misleading, and means testing or tax changes could address their impact on our economy

The rest is context and more sources, which may merit more spin and unembedding here: segment,the club of association)

If you don't get it you maybe out foxed.

Nonetheless i will further comment on some of the above links.
Club: The Norman Goldman 4-Point Plan to Rescue America
Association Lawrence O'Donnell, Dennis Kucinich interview about Tea Party coordination.
More: Randi Rhodes interviews Ron Paul
Spin: It is hard to believe Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker could be outed by prank, as puppet of Tea Party Sugar Daddy David Koch.
And back to O'Reilly interview of Beck, it completes a circle. The democracy that means the so-called communists and fundamentalists Beck says will be at the table in Egypt will be practiced in some repects in America and there will be uprising against the crony capitalism of Governor (Mubarak)Walker.
[2-24-11 See Comment and added footnotes in the form of the last two links embedded.]
[Late find of Lawrence O'Donnell v. Beck: tangent out ]

The Jig is Up?

Metaphors aside the Debt Ceiling "negotiations" may require a short-term vote.

[Cut, Cap and Balance: Cutting Jobs, Capping Responsibility, and Balancing on Disaster. That is a not only a non-starter it is a nation ender. Spending is not the problem, Congressional responsibility is, and we know which party. The House sets the budget, with the approval of the Senate and with only a veto threat by the President. A balanced budget amendment with a cap on percentage of GDP is a form of capping the mechanisms of government to get anything done.]

[The President addresses the nation.]

[7-26-11 Misledership: Cut Cap and Balance - The Whine and Teas
for the American P-ease-
Hook, line and sinker.]

[7-27-11: Reel Time*? Blank Check? Bounced check for previous Republican administrations(See Chart).]

[Respected Sources: Randi Rhodes, Lawrence O'Donnell. Ezra Klein. Norman Goldman (7-28). ]


[Disrespected Sources: Whiner of the House.]
[Debt Picture 101: or cut, cap and balance.]

* Lawrence O'Donnell, Howard Fineman, polls and results.

[7-28-11: Down Riggers and Reel Leders set the bait. There are apparently three options: something that will pass the senate without the presidents veto, a clean bill or no bill. And no bill (to mix metaphors) is a punch to the tackle box. Section 4 of the 14th Amendment(see bait) not only is the right solution, as the debt ceiling is probably not constitutional. It makes no sense to pass budgets that are not paid for, let alone put the present administration on the hook for earlier non-sense.]
[7-29 Thom Hartmann , Rerun O'Donnell- Nancy Pelosi and Grand Bargain: Leg 101.
Stephanie Miller: Leg 102., Debt 201. NG 7-29. N.G. Prophesied: Two weeks for John Boehner as Speaker, since he cannot control his people. I don't think they want to control their people, so he may remain. It leaves a bit of denial to the party, or would be a total association with them if they replaced him with someone who could.]
[7-30 I'm conflicted or caught in a net, is it deal or bounced check? If you can expect a deal why not a clean bill? How about a no bumber stickers or banners and slogans, pledge? But get a deal done or the president will have the biggest line item veto any Republican could wish for. Or invoke the 14th Amendment, impeach and MoveOn. Clean deal or no deal?]